Ep. 76: Astrology 101 w/ Sophie S. Won

Written By Elisabeth Fleming

[33 MIN LISTEN]

 

It’s no secret that astrology has been practiced for millennia and, for good reason: it is an amazing tool that works. Whether you’re seasoned in astrology or an astrology beginner looking to dive deeper into your astrological birth chart, this episode with Universal Astrology expert, Sophie Won, really packs a good hearty punch on the topic of astrology basics and astrology for beginners. This is more than just zodiac signs - we’re talking practical tools for intuition guidance. 

In this episode, you’ll learn:

  • What is astrology and why is it important?

  • What are the biggest benefits of practicing astrology?

  • What’s the difference between Vedic and Western astrology and how can we use them in tandem to deepen our knowledge and personal practices?

  • Can astrology predict soulmates, marriage, death? Sophie myth busts a few common misconceptions about astrology and surprises us with an interesting take on astrological predictions.

Sophie Won is a Universal Astrologer based in Austin, Texas, specializing in both Vedic and Western astrology, with a primary focus on Vedic. Known for her appearance on Netflix’s Indian Matchmaking Season 2, she serves as a celestial guide helping others understand their soul’s blueprint. Through astrology and spiritual insight, Sophie empowers individuals to navigate purpose, relationships, and life’s deeper patterns with clarity and alignment.

 

Episode transcript:

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00:05:42.210 --> 00:05:49.760 Liz Fleming: Sophie Won, welcome to the Life with Liz. Podcast we are so excited and honored and grateful to have you here today as a guest.

43 00:05:49.760 --> 00:05:52.600 Sophie Won: Thank you so much for having me. I'm excited to be here as well.

44 00:05:52.600 --> 00:06:13.520 Liz Fleming: Yay, this is so fantastic. My 1st astrologer on the podcast I feel so special, and it's long overdue. This is such a phenomenal and breathtaking topic, especially with where I'm at in my life, and I know a lot of my listeners are, too. So it's just so fantastic to have a pro in this realm

45 00:06:13.790 --> 00:06:18.399 Liz Fleming: to speak with about this. I think a lot of people are dabbling right now, and all.

46 00:06:18.400 --> 00:06:19.120 Sophie Won: Oh, yeah.

47 00:06:19.120 --> 00:06:19.800 Liz Fleming: Yeah, it's.

48 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:37.700 Sophie Won: Definitely a big it. I mean, it's interesting, because, like, you really start to see. Oh, wow! This is like, come through full circle as like a trend because you start to see like things marketed to you as like, oh, if you're like the Sagittarius pack or what whatnot. And so it's really interesting. Kind of see? Like.

49 00:06:37.720 --> 00:06:49.849 Sophie Won: oh, even like consumer goods. They're really starting to use this. So it's just like funny and and amusing of like, Oh, yeah, it's like, I mean, it's been around for centuries. So it's not going anywhere.

50 00:06:49.850 --> 00:07:18.830 Liz Fleming: Yeah. And that's why I'm so excited to chat with you because you have made it your your livelihood, and you're so good at it, and you know I was brought to astrology kind of by default through numerology, like we were just talking about with Caitlin Kerhart, who is your bff, your cosmic bestie. We love you guys. And because I was trying with numerology to like sync stuff with the new moon and the full moon. And then I was like, this is such like a small.

51 00:07:18.830 --> 00:07:25.770 Sophie Won: Part of astrology, and then hearing how you drop your wisdom in the weekly forecasts, kind of.

52 00:07:25.880 --> 00:07:39.789 Liz Fleming: Just blew my mind wide open, and I was the one that kind of found myself on Google seeing terms like you just said, you know, like, I don't know what any of this is. So I'm just really looking forward to this conversation.

53 00:07:40.030 --> 00:07:59.179 Sophie Won: Yeah, help happy to break it down for the people, because it can get really overwhelming. It's almost like a different language. But when you really kind of get the basics down? You're like, Oh, okay, that's what that means. And that's why this this correlative pattern is happening. Okay? Interesting.

54 00:07:59.460 --> 00:08:05.470 Liz Fleming: That's such a relief to hear so let's start there breaking it down with the basics.

55 00:08:05.650 --> 00:08:17.049 Liz Fleming: What is astrology? If you were to sum it up in like a few sentences. I know it's such a massive topic like you said. That's been around for centuries, if not millennia. So what is.

56 00:08:17.650 --> 00:08:36.320 Sophie Won: So. Astrology, I like to say, is the study and the belief that essentially the celestial bodies, the stars, the planets, influence our lives. And so it's studying the pattern of how literally the universe with all its celestial bodies, the stars, the planets

57 00:08:36.380 --> 00:08:48.380 Sophie Won: are influencing your life, your psychodynamic personality. And it's that's just what it is. It's just purely a study, and I like to think of it as

58 00:08:48.530 --> 00:09:00.080 Sophie Won: the astrology chart. Your needle chart is the map of the sky the moment you were born. And so the theory that I subscribe to is that your soul

59 00:09:00.460 --> 00:09:23.020 Sophie Won: pick the specific day it wanted to enter into the realm into this verse, and that's very specific date time location. If you take a photograph of the universe, where are all the celestial bodies, the planets and the stars. That's like your personal blueprint in your map. And that map

60 00:09:23.080 --> 00:09:32.539 Sophie Won: tells you a lot about your journey, and like why you pick certain things, and you know what like, what this journey has for you. And

61 00:09:32.800 --> 00:09:40.749 Sophie Won: and so it really comes down to like, I said the minute. So yeah, that's kind of in a nutshell. What astrology is! I like to summarize us.

62 00:09:41.400 --> 00:09:50.349 Liz Fleming: That's amazing. And we're so lucky now with the resources and tools and knowledge that we have accumulated over the years to be able to like.

63 00:09:50.930 --> 00:10:18.420 Liz Fleming: plug this stuff into a website or go to someone like you and have them describe it versus like back in ancient Egypt, when they were using the stars in the sky to like build the pyramids and harvest their crops right? It was so different back then, like how the wisdom has evolved to today, and it's still so beneficial and so useful. What do you feel personally is like the biggest benefit of

64 00:10:18.780 --> 00:10:20.500 Liz Fleming: practicing astrology for yourself.

65 00:10:20.500 --> 00:10:28.340 Sophie Won: So. That's a great question. And I personally think that it's such a great tool for

66 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:33.039 Sophie Won: understanding the self. And people think that astrology

67 00:10:33.330 --> 00:10:42.340 Sophie Won: has, like the answers. And that's actually not correct. Astrology actually helps you ask

68 00:10:42.470 --> 00:10:51.999 Sophie Won: better questions because you're always gonna you're the answers are always going to be changing because you're changing, right? So you're you're continuously evolving. And not only that.

69 00:10:52.160 --> 00:11:14.139 Sophie Won: no single person is the same. And so a lot of people dismiss astrology like, oh, how could all the virgos have this? How could all the cancers be like this? Well, you also have, like 11 other, you know, celestial bodies and planetary influences you have to look at, and that combination is very unique to you.

70 00:11:14.350 --> 00:11:22.740 Sophie Won: And so I think it's such a great tool for understanding what questions to ask, instead of

71 00:11:23.080 --> 00:11:26.820 Sophie Won: trying to receive the answers, because the answers are within you.

72 00:11:26.820 --> 00:11:27.300 Liz Fleming: That's.

73 00:11:27.300 --> 00:11:36.919 Sophie Won: I would like to say is, the answers are all within you. You don't. You don't really need anything or anyone, but I like to look at

74 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:52.819 Sophie Won: the astrology map as a really great like guidance tool for? Okay, I'm not asking the right questions. What questions should I be asking? And so just as much as the answers. I think the questions

75 00:11:53.090 --> 00:11:55.010 Sophie Won: are more important.

76 00:11:55.010 --> 00:11:55.420 Liz Fleming: Hmm.

77 00:11:55.420 --> 00:11:59.059 Sophie Won: No, that's that's why I think the greatest thing about astrology is

78 00:11:59.380 --> 00:12:24.149 Sophie Won: a tool for really diving deeper into understanding yourself, understanding your patterns. The conscious, unconscious understanding because it reveals such incredible patterns. And that's actually what really attracted me to astrology. To begin with, is, I noticed these patterns about myself. And I was like, this is really interesting. And I would also say that because

79 00:12:24.270 --> 00:12:27.110 Sophie Won: you consciously don't get to pick

80 00:12:27.240 --> 00:12:46.590 Sophie Won: the date you're in place and location. You're born right. That's a that's literally your soul. And this kind of get it's like you get what you get versus like, you know, if you take a personality test while you're already biased. There's already a bias that you have to remove from the results. So

81 00:12:46.890 --> 00:12:50.089 Sophie Won: that's what I really like. That's personally what I love about astrology.

82 00:12:50.420 --> 00:13:16.059 Liz Fleming: I love that perspective so much, because in my research, it's so wild. When I start typing anything about astrology into Google, and it auto populates other search terms. It's always like, can astrology predict my soulmate? Can it predict when I'm going to die? Can it predict my my soul, mate, my partner all of this when I'm going to get married, and I agree with you. It comes from a totally different perspective of

83 00:13:16.060 --> 00:13:23.560 Liz Fleming: prompting the questions. And I, too. Once I started having certain like

84 00:13:24.010 --> 00:13:43.329 Liz Fleming: aspects of my chart, like in my conscious awareness, I started picking up on patterns as well each month, and it's so fascinating what you uncover about yourself, and I just love hearing that from from a professional like you, that the answers are already within. And this is just a tool to continue guiding you on your path.

85 00:13:43.330 --> 00:13:49.929 Sophie Won: Absolutely. Yeah. And there don't get me wrong. There's definitely predictive astrology. And like, you know, the because the patterns.

86 00:13:50.140 --> 00:14:05.910 Sophie Won: the patterns are there for a reason we didn't make those up. I didn't make those up that those are like like you said millennial millennium years old. So there is something, and it hasn't gone away, and it's not going away. So something this ancient

87 00:14:06.220 --> 00:14:19.209 Sophie Won: had that has been carried through and lasted for such a long time. There must be something here, or else why would it continue to persist in as like such a incredible tool.

88 00:14:19.660 --> 00:14:39.750 Liz Fleming: Right? Yeah, for years, for years and years and years, and just to clarify for everyone listening when we talk about astrology, I mean, Sophie explained it so well when we kicked off like her definition of astrology. But when I 1st heard the word astrology I was like, Oh, I'm a Virgo, and only ever kept the sunshine like.

89 00:14:39.750 --> 00:14:40.510 Sophie Won: Hmm, yeah.

90 00:14:40.510 --> 00:14:45.319 Liz Fleming: That was like my focus point, because we grew up with like Cosmopolitan and 17 magazine.

91 00:14:45.320 --> 00:14:46.150 Sophie Won: Totally.

92 00:14:46.150 --> 00:14:54.199 Liz Fleming: Right, and like that's all we know. So it took me what I'm 35 now, and I'm just now like.

93 00:14:54.330 --> 00:15:02.930 Liz Fleming: produce my birth chart for the 1st time my astrological birth chart. So there's so much to it, and it's so fascinating to me

94 00:15:03.060 --> 00:15:04.320 Liz Fleming: how

95 00:15:04.470 --> 00:15:18.759 Liz Fleming: unique, uniquely specific everything is within it. And there's so many terms, and there's just so much knowledge and wisdom just being handed to us on a silver platter. And I think it's it's such a gift.

96 00:15:19.440 --> 00:15:27.190 Sophie Won: Yeah, no, for sure. And like you said, it's like, Oh, a lot of people focus on the sun sign. And it's interesting because the sun represents

97 00:15:27.360 --> 00:15:34.589 Sophie Won: our ego and the masculine part of us, and does a very Western astrology, like centric

98 00:15:35.027 --> 00:15:41.439 Sophie Won: modality, is really focusing on the sun, whereas in actually in Vedic astrology, they really focus on the moon.

99 00:15:41.510 --> 00:16:04.730 Sophie Won: and the moon sign is the feminine. It's the inner world and the feminine side. And so, as you take would take on your, you know traditionally, your father's last name. That's what the Sun sign is. So when someone says, Hey, Liz, what's your last name. They, you know, call you by your father's last name. It's kind of like the sun sign is that for us?

100 00:16:04.790 --> 00:16:23.929 Sophie Won: But then we forget. Well, you have a 1st name. You got a middle name, you, you know. So a lot, I mean in Hispanic culture. You also take on your mom's maiden last name as well. And so we forget that there's all these like other things to us. Other than that. But yes, it's so beautifully complex, and really can. Just

101 00:16:24.481 --> 00:16:32.870 Sophie Won: you know it. It shapes a lot of these different little areas of your life so absolutely.

102 00:16:33.030 --> 00:16:51.180 Liz Fleming: Totally, and I want to chat to you more about Vedic astrology, because that's most of what you specialize in. You do, Vedic and Western. So can you explain, for everyone like what the difference is. You kind of loosely mentioned it just now. But that was a totally new term for me Vedic astrology. I was like, I just learned about Western astrology.

103 00:16:51.500 --> 00:17:15.350 Sophie Won: Right not to like throw a whole hanker. And it's so funny because there's actually so many different kinds of astrology. There's literally like different sects of Western astrology like there's like something called like Jungian astrology, which is because Carl Jung was an avid like really really studied astrology. And really loved it. And so there's a whole like division of Jungian astrology.

104 00:17:15.836 --> 00:17:29.919 Sophie Won: There's esoteric astrology, which is, I believe, tied to like Kabbalah. But that's I mean. So there's so many actually different sects of astrology. Vedic astrology originates from ancient India. And so

105 00:17:30.070 --> 00:17:59.010 Sophie Won: it's really synonymous with Hinduism. Ayurveda. But it really comes back to the Vedas, which are the most ancient Scriptures out of India. And essentially the biggest difference is, you'll notice, is that the signs shift from Western to Vedic, and that is because the way that time is calculated is a bit different. So in Western astrology you've got

106 00:17:59.110 --> 00:18:05.604 Sophie Won: 24 h in a day, 365 days in a year, and it really goes off of the

107 00:18:06.290 --> 00:18:24.839 Sophie Won: tropical zodiac. Right? And so you kind of have, like Aries. Season starts on this specific day every single year. It doesn't matter what's happening in the sky. This is just when it starts, whereas in a Vedic astrology it really is based off of the positioning of the rotation of the movement of

108 00:18:24.840 --> 00:18:40.910 Sophie Won: of the galaxy. Right? And then, you know, it's synonymous with the side real zodiac, which is based off of the fixed position of the stars. So these constellations that don't move at all. And but honestly, I was telling people.

109 00:18:40.940 --> 00:18:47.419 Sophie Won: The biggest difference is that you might be a Leo in Vedic astrology

110 00:18:47.895 --> 00:18:55.810 Sophie Won: versus a Virgo. So you'll immediately notice a sign shift because of the way time is calculated right. Time is

111 00:18:56.280 --> 00:19:00.709 Sophie Won: technically like, you know, I mean, that's a whole nother concept.

112 00:19:00.710 --> 00:19:01.130 Liz Fleming: You have.

113 00:19:01.130 --> 00:19:08.049 Sophie Won: I'm not being a real thing. But the way we calculate it actually quite subjective.

114 00:19:09.031 --> 00:19:12.319 Sophie Won: Based off of where you are. And so

115 00:19:12.600 --> 00:19:17.669 Sophie Won: these like the foundations, you're pretty much the same in the sense that you've got

116 00:19:17.890 --> 00:19:40.020 Sophie Won: the signs. You've got the planets. You've got the houses. These are the 3 main things that are the fundamentals of astrology. But it's really just understanding the calculation of time. And then with that, because Vedic astrology is really steeped with the Vedas. The whole point of understanding your chart

117 00:19:40.150 --> 00:19:43.279 Sophie Won: is really understanding the kind of Karma.

118 00:19:43.630 --> 00:19:51.549 Sophie Won: What kind of Karma did you come in here with like, why are you doing? Why are you in this existence now?

119 00:19:51.650 --> 00:20:07.190 Sophie Won: And so concepts like Karma reincarnation? Your dharma like that? All plays a huge role into the reason why why you study this, and that's very, very deeply steeped in

120 00:20:07.550 --> 00:20:14.295 Sophie Won: like I, said the Vedas. And so that's essentially Vedic astrology. Not that was a very long description. But

121 00:20:14.650 --> 00:20:15.639 Sophie Won: so humble.

122 00:20:15.640 --> 00:20:19.230 Sophie Won: Yeah, I hope that, like you understand the diff. The main difference.

123 00:20:19.230 --> 00:20:41.269 Liz Fleming: Yes, yes, because I googled it, and I was just like, I think I kind of understand. But I don't know. So, hearing how you just explained. It gives me such clarity, and I'm sure it does for everyone listening, too. So it sounds like, because time is like the the deciding factor. With each one your birth chart would be different for each one. Right.

124 00:20:41.510 --> 00:20:42.539 Sophie Won: Yeah, so you.

125 00:20:42.540 --> 00:20:45.040 Liz Fleming: Leo and Vedic, and a Virgo and Western.

126 00:20:45.040 --> 00:20:49.290 Sophie Won: Absolutely. And it's so funny because that really trips people up.

127 00:20:49.290 --> 00:20:51.879 Liz Fleming: Yeah, that's funny. Because yeah, you're like.

128 00:20:52.010 --> 00:20:52.960 Sophie Won: What?

129 00:20:53.880 --> 00:20:55.430 Sophie Won: Just like funny, because

130 00:20:55.680 --> 00:21:10.559 Sophie Won: I always have clients. So I'm like, you know, my specialty is Vedic. I did start studying Western astrology, and so I always tell people beforehand. I'm like, if you really want me to use the Western astrology, I will read the Western Astrology.

131 00:21:10.800 --> 00:21:19.699 Sophie Won: But this is your Vedic. And some people really reject the Vedic. And they're like, that's just like, I just don't resonate. And that's cool. That's fine. But like it is totally

132 00:21:20.020 --> 00:21:31.480 Sophie Won: different. And for me, like in Western astrology, I'm a cancer. But in Vedic I'm a gemini, and like I don't, I mean, I'm sure you've heard. But you know, Caitlin and I really poo poo

133 00:21:32.340 --> 00:21:34.970 Sophie Won: the gemini, which is like ironic, because, like

134 00:21:35.240 --> 00:21:55.620 Sophie Won: there's so I mean, I'm complete Gemini in Vedic astrology, and there are things that I really resonate actually with that. And so I and like, I said, there's so many different kinds of astrology that like this one's going to say this. This one's going to say that. But that's why I always try to have clients really focus on

135 00:21:55.880 --> 00:22:15.670 Sophie Won: the guiding questions instead of because I can't. I can't make the choices you're supposed to make in this life. I can only help you interpret, perhaps, why your soul picked that, and maybe the next series of questions to help you understand your journey. And so

136 00:22:15.940 --> 00:22:25.009 Sophie Won: you know, I always tell people these are just labels. Don't pay attention to the labels. You don't need a label yourself, if you if you're like. You know what

137 00:22:25.520 --> 00:22:31.670 Sophie Won: Leo sounds great, Sophie, I'm gonna go with that. That's cool. I I love that, you know. And so it's so funny because

138 00:22:31.890 --> 00:22:59.640 Sophie Won: hates like, Oh, I really resonate with that Leo sun. I was like, I know, girl, it really fits you. And then, you know, for me, like I really resonate with my Vedic moon sign, which is Scorpio, and I'm like, Oh, I really resonate with that right? But then, like, I have all this cancer energy. And so sometimes I'm like, Oh, but I really feel like cancer energy. It really depends. Like. I tell people just cherry, pick whatever you like and like, call it a day like it, doesn't. You don't have to subscribe to this or that. It just whatever you resonate with. But it really trips people up.

139 00:23:00.070 --> 00:23:01.912 Liz Fleming: Yeah. And I love that you.

140 00:23:02.840 --> 00:23:09.970 Liz Fleming: You noted that because I was one of those people like when I 1st got my birth chart. And it was just like online@astro.com.

141 00:23:10.380 --> 00:23:10.790 Sophie Won: Remember.

142 00:23:10.790 --> 00:23:12.279 Liz Fleming: Everyone, and

143 00:23:12.500 --> 00:23:35.060 Liz Fleming: I I like clung to what was on there. I was like, oh, my God! I'm like a Virgo in this house, and I'm a cancer in this house. I don't know like this is who I am. It's never gonna change. But I love. I love how you just put that so eloquently like you take what works for you, and you leave what doesn't. And it like. Doesn't the label doesn't define you? But it's like.

144 00:23:35.060 --> 00:23:35.690 Sophie Won: Calling you.

145 00:23:35.690 --> 00:23:41.480 Liz Fleming: The information is helping prompt you in new ways to uncover your truth, which is really the whole.

146 00:23:42.310 --> 00:23:57.879 Sophie Won: Yes, exactly. And so I always tell people don't get so hung up on a label. You're so multidimensional, and we're always evolving not only that. But like, when you think about the chart, your entire chart has 12 signs.

147 00:23:57.960 --> 00:24:25.329 Sophie Won: so there's a little piece of like every sign within you, and some. It's just a little bit stronger than the other area, and that's cool. So you know, even in Western astrology, they've got like so many different ways of like understanding your chart where it technically like, does evolve same with Vedic astrology. You've got like what they call the D 9, which is the marriage chart. It's like the chart after you get married.

148 00:24:25.330 --> 00:24:26.180 Liz Fleming: Oh, boy!

149 00:24:26.180 --> 00:24:31.550 Sophie Won: Yeah, I know right? And that really trips people up. And then, like, you know, whenever I read for clients that are like.

150 00:24:31.760 --> 00:24:37.890 Sophie Won: you know, past like 80, which I have I actually focus on like their

151 00:24:38.030 --> 00:24:45.479 Sophie Won: post marriage chart. Because I'm like this. It's the chart of what your soul grows into. So that's really interesting. So I always tell people like.

152 00:24:46.110 --> 00:24:59.710 Sophie Won: usually you take what you get from like, what's gonna like help find peace and acceptance. I think that's like the whole bottom line for anything is like what's really gonna help me find my peace and find like my own acceptance.

153 00:25:00.110 --> 00:25:01.700 Sophie Won: That's like what we're here for.

154 00:25:02.010 --> 00:25:13.970 Liz Fleming: Yes, and I love that. There are people like you willing to teach others, because this is it's such a big industry. It's a massive topic, and

155 00:25:14.250 --> 00:25:25.249 Liz Fleming: where I am at personally in my life, just using an example like I'm interested in it. But I know I don't have like the time or knowledge or experience to unpack it myself.

156 00:25:25.250 --> 00:25:25.610 Sophie Won: Yeah.

157 00:25:25.610 --> 00:25:46.600 Liz Fleming: And there's so much power in investing in a coach like you to literally guide you through your chart, and also like, have that as a lifelong resource. You know, like what an amazing tool. So I love that. And that's definitely an option that you have right right now as you are you do like one on one booking still right?

158 00:25:46.600 --> 00:26:09.410 Sophie Won: Absolutely. And you know, I always audio record because it's so funny, because my my traditional reading is like 90 min. And people think, how can you? That is so long like, how is that even possible that like that? There's that much information I'm like, oh, sometimes I even go a little bit over, because I'm like, not finished, because there's so much. And like.

159 00:26:09.630 --> 00:26:10.680 Sophie Won: you know.

160 00:26:10.830 --> 00:26:26.350 Sophie Won: when you actually like, I have clients that cut keep coming back, because every time you get more questions and you can go deeper, because really, the chart just reveals so much information. And

161 00:26:26.460 --> 00:26:35.600 Sophie Won: there's also timing like these transits I refer to because you have to realize, like, I always tell people imagine that you are a universe.

162 00:26:35.640 --> 00:26:54.740 Sophie Won: So, Liz, you are your own universe. You've got the sun, moon, you've got Venus, Mars you all these, you all the celestial bodies, the stars and the planets. Okay, you're your own little universe, which is existing inside a bigger, wider universe around you. That is also moving right? And so.

163 00:26:54.770 --> 00:27:22.009 Sophie Won: and that universe is in interacting with your universe. And so well, how is that interaction? What is that going to mean for you? What does that look like for you? And that's where the predictive astrology comes into place because certain planets in certain positions have a specific kind of, you know, quote impact that was like recognized as a pattern. So hence why, like the full moon, the new moon

164 00:27:22.100 --> 00:27:33.120 Sophie Won: right and like how that gravitational pull of the moon really does influence the water. We are made up of water we are made up of like.

165 00:27:33.300 --> 00:27:35.800 Liz Fleming: 95%, 90% water, yeah.

166 00:27:35.800 --> 00:27:41.859 Sophie Won: I think it's like 60, 70, something like that. But just a lot. That's a lot of water right.

167 00:27:42.220 --> 00:27:44.960 Liz Fleming: So when you think about that.

168 00:27:45.280 --> 00:27:59.019 Sophie Won: How could how could you not realize, like all these other? You know, celestial bodies and stars don't have an influence. And so it's just tracking and understanding how this may influence.

169 00:27:59.399 --> 00:28:28.099 Sophie Won: Obviously, we still have free will. So I always actually tell people destiny, because people think, Oh, if I believe in astrology. I don't have free will. That's not true. Free will, I like to say, is your Karma, which I believe in Karma, which is all the stuff from your previous lifetime that you've accrued even in this lifetime, meaning your free will. That's what destiny is. That's literally the definition of destiny is Karma, meeting your free will coming together.

170 00:28:28.120 --> 00:28:40.930 Sophie Won: And so it's just it's really interesting to I use it really as an observation tool. And yes, I'll make predictions. So a lot of clients. They they really want the predictions. And I always tell people it's like

171 00:28:40.990 --> 00:28:41.900 Sophie Won: the best

172 00:28:42.030 --> 00:28:52.089 Sophie Won: astrologer and psychic in the world isn't going to ever get it 100 right, because I don't know what you're going to pick. I don't know what timeline you're going to go down. All I can tell you is these are the themes.

173 00:28:52.240 --> 00:29:04.890 Sophie Won: So pay attention. But yes, with the one on one clients. It's like a full blown like this is what's going on. This is your whole chart. This is why you came in here.

174 00:29:05.250 --> 00:29:14.059 Sophie Won: and you know I get most of my clients. I would say, like 99% of my clients are going through some kind of existential crisis. And just like needing.

175 00:29:15.170 --> 00:29:15.800 Sophie Won: yeah.

176 00:29:15.800 --> 00:29:38.460 Liz Fleming: Interesting. Yeah, I love. I love that you're there as a resource, and that you mentioned the how you help pick up on the themes, you know, because I love what you just said to like. You don't know what timeline someone is on, and when they're gonna like quantum leap to the next or the next, or the next right. So one reading is going to be totally different than the next. That could be like 3 days later, right.

177 00:29:38.460 --> 00:29:39.480 Sophie Won: Totally.

178 00:29:39.620 --> 00:30:06.710 Liz Fleming: I think, listeners. Just what we're trying to get at here, too, is like staying in your awareness and knowing yourself enough to know when to ask for help like this on topics that you're new to, or maybe that you're well versed in. And you're just like, you know what I want someone who's also well versed in it to talk to. So just knowing that there's so many more resources out there than just like getting your free birth chart and trying to.

179 00:30:07.220 --> 00:30:13.769 Liz Fleming: you know, like unpack it yourself, which I tried to do, and it was just like I I hit a ceiling right, I think.

180 00:30:13.770 --> 00:30:14.190 Sophie Won: Yeah.

181 00:30:14.419 --> 00:30:21.060 Liz Fleming: I think I met you. I was like, I, I was doing okay until I got to like aspect patterns. And I was like, the fuck is this shit.

182 00:30:22.005 --> 00:30:27.329 Sophie Won: Yeah, all your planets interact with each other. You're like, Wait.

183 00:30:27.860 --> 00:30:50.150 Liz Fleming: I'm like. Now, what? Now I have to figure this out. Yeah. So that was the point for me in my awareness where I was like I need to. I'm ready to outsource and like go to Sophie. And this is, that's the right path for me. But that's because it's a genuine interest for me, you know, and that's really what we're trying to get across to here is like, follow it. If it feels good for you. It's not like

184 00:30:50.150 --> 00:30:58.579 Liz Fleming: we're trying to force anyone into a certain belief system. It's like, take it or leave it. But this, this is here for us. It's here as a resource, and there.

185 00:30:58.580 --> 00:30:59.370 Sophie Won: Totally.

186 00:30:59.370 --> 00:31:07.449 Liz Fleming: Just so much proof, you know, in in the years that it's it's been around.

187 00:31:08.390 --> 00:31:23.470 Liz Fleming: So we're getting to the end of our time. But I would love to end on this question, what is something that you wish everyone knew about astrology, like, if I feel like there's, you know, we touched on some of the

188 00:31:23.750 --> 00:31:40.699 Liz Fleming: the misconceptions and the benefits. But if you were to pick one thing for maybe that person who's listening, who's kind of skeptical, and they're like on the fence. And they're like, I don't know, or someone like me, who's new and like curious like, what's the one thing.

189 00:31:40.900 --> 00:31:41.250 Sophie Won: In.

190 00:31:41.250 --> 00:31:42.450 Liz Fleming: That person knew.

191 00:31:42.450 --> 00:31:45.493 Sophie Won: That's such a great question. I've never been asked this question.

192 00:31:46.695 --> 00:31:48.299 Sophie Won: I would say.

193 00:31:48.620 --> 00:31:53.619 Sophie Won: I know right. Oh, my gosh! This is such a great question. I would say that

194 00:31:54.010 --> 00:31:57.380 Sophie Won: the one thing I think everybody should know

195 00:31:57.570 --> 00:32:07.639 Sophie Won: about astrology is that whether you participate in like believing in it or not believing in it.

196 00:32:07.770 --> 00:32:13.520 Sophie Won: It is so. It is like something to note that

197 00:32:13.630 --> 00:32:18.560 Sophie Won: it is here for you, regardless because

198 00:32:18.720 --> 00:32:23.050 Sophie Won: we all can recognize and identify that there are

199 00:32:23.659 --> 00:32:34.500 Sophie Won: the like, the planets and the celestial bodies in the sky, they technically the star or the sun is a star, so I can't even call it a planet right?

200 00:32:35.210 --> 00:32:38.059 Sophie Won: But like, we can all recognize

201 00:32:38.170 --> 00:32:42.849 Sophie Won: that there is something here greater for us, and I think that

202 00:32:43.190 --> 00:32:46.870 Sophie Won: that is probably the one takeaway is like, no.

203 00:32:47.000 --> 00:33:02.029 Sophie Won: that you are a part of the universe, and the universe is you like you? That's what I would say is like, you are the universe, the universe is you? That's what astrology actually really is. And when you think about that.

204 00:33:02.210 --> 00:33:20.269 Sophie Won: it gives somebody almost this, like, I, I would love to leave your audience, and you know I I would love to leave them with this encouraging message that, like there isn't a single being on this planet that isn't

205 00:33:20.440 --> 00:33:30.170 Sophie Won: so unique and so special in their own universe, and that you are also connected to something bigger. Whether you believe

206 00:33:30.290 --> 00:33:33.210 Sophie Won: in God or religion or anything it's like

207 00:33:33.851 --> 00:33:44.619 Sophie Won: you can trust and believe that no matter what like, you're part of that system, whether you believe or not, don't believe so that's like the one kind of

208 00:33:44.660 --> 00:34:07.209 Sophie Won: kernel of truth that I'm like, we can recognize. The sun is there? You can feel it on your skin. You can recognize. The moon is there. You can even see Venus and Mars and Jupiter. By the way, literally, you can see them in the sky. And so to know. Wow! I have all of this magic and power within myself as well and like with that

209 00:34:07.510 --> 00:34:12.676 Sophie Won: the world is literally in the universe. Sorry, not just the world. The universe is your oyster.

210 00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:25.309 Liz Fleming: Yeah, that feels so aligned for me to what you just said those words of encouragement. And you you used a very specific word there that the universe is there for us? It's bigger

211 00:34:25.789 --> 00:34:46.249 Liz Fleming: out there for us, not then. Us. Yeah, it's truly it's it's open your eyes like it's right there that was like one of my tells I've I've loved like the stars and the night sky like everything about this since I was a little girl growing up in like the country of Vermont, because I could see it. It was just.

212 00:34:46.250 --> 00:34:46.750 Sophie Won: Oh!

213 00:34:46.750 --> 00:34:48.389 Liz Fleming: And

214 00:34:48.780 --> 00:34:54.471 Liz Fleming: I always it was just kind of like the running joke in the family, like oh, Liz has her head in the sky, you know, like

215 00:34:54.699 --> 00:34:55.229 Sophie Won: Yeah.

216 00:34:55.230 --> 00:35:23.110 Liz Fleming: But it's like a feeling. And as I grew older and I really, you know, I became a coach, and I got really into personal development. It was when I started taking it seriously, like, Oh, that that feeling intuitively is trying to tell me something. It's telling me to look closer and dive deeper. So that is what brought me deeper into my astrological practice. And I just I love knowing that it's there. For me. It's such a comfort. And

217 00:35:23.490 --> 00:35:30.969 Liz Fleming: yeah, it's just. There's so much knowledge and wisdom in it, and we're so lucky to have it as a as a guide in our lives. I love that.

218 00:35:31.600 --> 00:35:32.330 Sophie Won: Yes.

219 00:35:32.540 --> 00:35:47.409 Liz Fleming: So beautiful. Okay, so where can everyone find you? I'm gonna link all of your your resources in the show notes. I have them in there. But just give us the rundown before we dip out. If people want to work with you and learn more, what what can they do?

220 00:35:47.410 --> 00:36:09.119 Sophie Won: Yeah, so I do client work, one on one client work. So you're always. I'm more than happy to have sessions. And then obviously Instagram. So Sophie, s. 1. So you can find me on Instagram. But yeah, those are the probably the 2 places. I have a website. But you'll be able to find all the information

221 00:36:09.623 --> 00:36:31.780 Sophie Won: kind of like thread back to each other. But, I would say that if you're somebody that is, you know, deeply curious to like you start with even just Google, like, if you're like, oh, I don't really know if I can like, do this session like, start with Google, it's a great place I would recommend. Do not use chat. Gpt, so funny. One of my, yeah. And I'm serious because.

222 00:36:31.780 --> 00:36:32.220 Liz Fleming: No.

223 00:36:32.220 --> 00:36:33.410 Sophie Won: Bye, friends.

224 00:36:33.650 --> 00:36:49.591 Sophie Won: he like he was like using it, sending me like what it was saying. And I was like, this is completely wrong. Your rising is wrong. Your Venus is wrong. It's like, yeah. Jupiter is gonna transit your 7th house. 2025. I was like, that's not. That's wrong. So.

225 00:36:49.910 --> 00:36:50.840 Liz Fleming: Oh, gosh!

226 00:36:51.542 --> 00:36:56.967 Sophie Won: Do not use chat, because there, it's gonna get it wrong.

227 00:36:57.420 --> 00:36:58.010 Liz Fleming: Huh!

228 00:36:58.200 --> 00:37:21.729 Sophie Won: And trust me. I use chat for things, but I never use it for this kind of stuff, because I'm like, this is just wrong so, you know, but like obviously a rep reputable astrology sources like astro.com all that stuff. But then, you know, obviously happy to do sessions and really dive into either your Vedic or your western but yeah, so that's that's where you can find me and learn more.

229 00:37:21.870 --> 00:37:29.729 Liz Fleming: Yes, thank you so much, Sophie, this was so incredible. I really appreciate you coming on and dropping your wisdom for us.

230 00:37:29.730 --> 00:37:31.589 Sophie Won: Yeah, thanks so much for having me.

 

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